Palin’s church is promoting one of those conferences that purports to help gays and lesbians who want to change their sexual orientation to do so through the “power of prayer.”
Palin, campaigning with McCain in the Midwest on Friday, has not publicly expressed a view on the so-called “pray away the gay” movement. Larry Kroon, senior pastor at Palin’s church, was not available to discuss the matter Friday, said a church worker who declined to give her name.
This is the church she currently attends, not her former church. The Log Cabin Republicans have endorsed the McCain/Palin ticket; their board chairman said McCain’s maverick status appeals to them, a quality exemplified by his pick of Palin.
Dobson’s people came to Birmingham a few years ago for one of these conferences. I helped to plan a counter-conference for the local LGBT community featuring clergy and mental health professionals, and one of the most powerful and painful parts of the day was listening to the stories of people who had been forced or had forced themselves to participate in “reparative therapy”. It’s a crock, and it does tremendous damage.
Thanks but no thanks, Gov. Palin. I don’t want a Vice President who believes certain sexual orientations or gender identities can, or should, be “prayed away”.
I know this is off-topic, but today’s rumor seems to be that Obama tried to declare “Islamic Day” back in Illinois. What they’re referring to, but apparently not looking up, is this piece of legislation:
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet90/summary/900SR0110.html
Go ahead and read the full text. It’s not even in hard to understand legalese. And apparently, the people who are posting information about the bill’s “summary” aren’t even posting that correctly. Fortunately, they did get the bill’s number correct, or I never would have found it.
You can pray away gay?? Really?? Can I pray away the people who missed the point of Jesus’ coming in the first place???
I want to pray away my lefthandedness. It’s a real handicap in this right-hand-oriented world. I believe I’ll get right to work on that.
/snark
Watch some youtube videos of HER church, maybe I’m alone in thinking this is nuts.
Well, you’ve got me, so that’s two of us. My reaction was “Yikes.”
TE, you’re not alone.
Canada here I come!
Not to get to off-topic here, but I’ve got to interject here. I’ve been hearing the “I’m moving to Canada” argument a lot with this election. I also heard similar things during the last election.
Why is it no one ever seems to make good on that threat? Is it because America is still the greatest country there is? I’m not suggesting I want people to leave, I’m just curious if when people say these things, are they empty threats? Are they just venting?
It does seem that Canada might be a better place suited for the Democrat’s ideals: Universal Healthcare, little to no military spending or involvement, very environmentally friendly.
Anyway, just some late night ramblings and curious as to what you guys think.
Well, we probably won’t move, Jonathan, because I’ve got two kids finishing high school and my husband is invested in the state’s pension system, and our parents are in independent living communities nearby. Also, it’s cold in Canada. But if I honestly thought that the country was turning into a Dominionist-led theocracy, we’d be considering the move very carefully.
The checks and balances we all learned about in civics class are supposed to keep that kind of thing from happening. Bush’s “unitary executive” theory has taken some steps to tilt that balance. If someone who genuinely believes that the End Times are at hand and that America has an important role to play in the proceedings were to take the White House, I’m worried about how our system would respond. Even impeachment takes an awfully long time.
I think her pastor and former pastor should be completely free to say whatever they wish in the pulpit. I think the parishioners should be free to fall to the floor in Spirit-slain ecstasy every Sunday, and that no one should take their jobs away on Monday because they do. And I think that, as the Constitution says, there should be no test of religion for public office. But when enough people share these beliefs to vote one of their number into power as Commander-in-Chief of what they view as God’s Army – well then, it may be time to head for the border.
What
KathyDel said, and for similar reasons. It’s very cumbersome to make a move like that with no job and no guarantees. But if the price of staying would be greater than the price of leaving– if my daughter’s well-being came into question– we would go in a heartbeat. However, we’ve considered the UK as opposed to Canada. Canada and France technically have better health care systems, but we don’t speak French. We figured that the UK would be easier to assimilate into.On the same note, I’ve been frequenting the al.com Birmingham forums lately, and I’ve noticed several McCain supporters stating that they believed that the red states should secede from the Union if Obama won. I remember hearing the same thing in 2000 and 2004 from Bush supporters.
Nancy, can I go to Canada with you? I’ll help with the driving!!
“They believed that the red states should secede from the Union if Obama won.”
Gee, I wonder if that will go any better this time.
Gee, I wonder if that will go any better this time.
ALMod, in the interest of maintaining your mental health, and your even temper, I’d highly recommend avoiding the al.com forums.
Okay… That’s it.
http://almoderate.com/2008/09/09/the-bitch-is-back/
Spread the word amongst the blogosphere. I’ll have some very interesting information up before the day is out. I have about a week’s worth of stuff to put up, and I’m hoping that I can get the McCain/Palin group on the defensive before they try pulling anything else.
Yay! I am putting you back on the blogroll right now.
I am so shocked and in major disbelief at my female friends who are jumping on her band wagon ONLY because she is female. It makes me want to vomit. Good news, I wouldn’t have to give up my pension – we have offices in Canada. He he he.