Yikes

Palin speaking at her former AOG church

10 Responses to “Yikes”

  1. Kathy says:

    Well, she did seem to get word from the Lord that something big was coming to Alaska. :) My favorite part was her telling the graduates that they’d be bringing a lot of people to Jesus because they look so good.

    I know this video will come off as really crazy to many people, but aside from the stuff about prophecy and the request to pray for the pipeline, it doesn’t sound all that different from what I could hear in any mainline Christian denomination on a given Sunday morning. Even the line about Iraq was “let’s pray that God has a plan”, which makes sense from her viewpoint.

    What makes me nervous is not that Palin says and believes these things, it’s that she might try to impose her version of Christianity on the rest of us. That is a problem.

  2. Jonathan says:

    So she’s weird because she’s asking people to pray for the state and the progress of the pipeline? She even said she wants God’s will to be done, versus just saying “Pray God allows this pipeline to go in no matter what.”

    She’s weird or wrong for asking for prayer for the soldiers in Iraq? Or praying that there’s actually a plan for Iraq? She’s asking for prayer for our leaders and that they would be sending out the military on a task that’s God’s plan. I’m confused. What should we be praying for? Is there a list of things that we’re allowed to pray for? Now, if you don’t believe in God, yeah that might be a little weird. But I know many readers of this blog are professing Christians who believe in God and His son Jesus Christ.

    Also, I believe her statement about them “looking good” is that they don’t look like the typical abrasive Bible thumpers. They actually look contemporary and “hip”. She’s thinking they will be easily engaged and can witness easier due to people not being immediately turned off by their white shirts and ties.

    Generally, I think AOG churches are a little extreme and different in some of their ideologies. But to point out this video as something that we should be afraid of? Hardly.

  3. Jonathan says:

    Oh, and I am with you Kathy. I hope she doesn’t try to enforce her faith on down the line. I share many views with her politically and ideologically, however, I don’t think religion is one that should be forced on people.

  4. Kathy says:

    Generally, I think AOG churches are a little extreme and different in some of their ideologies. But to point out this video as something that we should be afraid of? Hardly.

    Again, it depends on whether or not her faith calls her to enforce her version of Christianity on others. And we don’t know enough about her at this point to make that determination. Some people may be comfortable with that uncertainty; I’m not.

  5. Del says:

    The first thing that bothered me about this was her chirpy, giddy style. “It was so cool growing up in this church and getting saved here!” The other, and far more serious thing, is all the coded language, the “prophecy stuff” Kathy refers to. To this former member of Mobile’s home-schooling community, that labels her definitively as a Us v. Them last-days Christianist. She avoids outright prayer for the pipeline, sure. You don’t get to be governor of Alaska by not knowing where to draw the line. She’s an ambitious and very smart Pentecostal.

    A quick google through some random quotes from the minister at this church (granted, she no longer attends, but she certainly seems to be on friendly terms – this speech was given in June) makes the Rev. Wright soundbites sound like dry Anglican collects. Here is your future Vice-President describing her former pastor’s prayer power:

    “[Pastor Kalnins] was praying over me. He’s praying, ‘Lord make a way, Lord make a way…’ And I’m thinking, this guy’s really bold, he doesn’t even know what I’m gonna do, he doesn’t know what my plans are, and he’s praying not, ‘Oh Lord, if it be your will may she become governor,’ or whatever. No, he just prayed for it. He said, ‘Lord, make a way, and let her do this next step.’ And that’s exactly what happened. So, again, very very powerful coming from this church.”

  6. Almod says:

    I’m with Kathy on this one. She could be a Scientologist for all I care. As long as she’s not forcing schools to teach classes on Dianetics, I think I can deal with that.

  7. Kathy says:

    There may be more to come on this issue. I’ve read some scary stuff today about Dominionist connections that may or may not lead directly to Palin. If they do, it’s not good.

  8. Jonathan says:

    I’d love to read about it as well. Sources?

  9. Kathy says:

    Jonathan, I will post some as soon as I can dig around a bit more. And as soon as I solve the login problem that’s keeping me from posting right now. Something to do with upgrades and plugins. I love computers! :)

  10. Del says:

    Jonathan, there is a big diary about this at Kos. I suppose whether we should even bother to read it depends on whether you think the Kos gang are rabid spittle-flecked leftist nuts, or rabid spittle-flecked leftist nuts who occasionally call something right. Other sites about Joel’s Army are truly frightening – try a Google. I think we should be taking Palin’s close association with a church possibly connected with them at least as seriously as we took Rev. Wright’s incendiary sermons or the Flag Pin Flap.

    I am sure a number of Americans, perhaps you too, will find my opinion highly offensive, but I don’t think anybody who truly, earnestly believes that every bit of the Bible is the inerrant Word of God belongs anywhere near the red phone, particularly when there is already a mess in the Middle East. I don’t want a president who, when there is a big decision to make, thinks that if s/he prays earnestly about it, God will show the way. I’d much prefer someone who seeks the advice of knowledgeable men and women, weighs the options, and then does what s/he thinks best for the country, not what s/he thinks will please the Lord of Hosts.

    And that’s not even touching on the social issues.

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