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By: Birmingham Blues » Blog Archive » Electoral Update

Birmingham Blues » Blog Archive » Electoral Update — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 06:47:28 +0000

[...] As Del posted last month, the initiative would ditch California’s current winner-takes-all approach in favor of apportioning votes based on the winners in each Congressional district. The proposal didn’t come from a cross-section of ordinary California citizens, and it doesn’t look like many of them support it. In fact, it was more of a New York effort. The Electoral College measure first ran into trouble in October when the original proponent, Sacramento attorney Tom Hiltachk, abandoned the campaign. He and his team raised only $175,000. After Hiltachk dropped the measure, Gilliard took it up, vowing to raise $2 million and enlisting the support of Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Vista), a longtime client. [...]

By: Bhmhomeboy

Bhmhomeboy — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 20:48:55 +0000

Here is another link about the Republican plan to steal the 2008 election, starting with California:
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/120307K.shtml

By: HotShot

HotShot — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 01:03:19 +0000

Sorry Roy! Typo. I too agree with ROY.

By: Roy

Roy — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 00:42:36 +0000

I too agree with Ron.

By: Bhmhomeboy

Bhmhomeboy — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 00:31:12 +0000

Another link on the subject from BuzzFlash.com

http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/editorblog/010

By: HotShot

HotShot — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:47:13 +0000

I agree with Ron. Alabama and the rest of the Confederate red states have entirly too much influence on the electoral college. Only in America can the candidate with the most votes lose.

By: Roy

Roy — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 15:30:41 +0000

I get disenfrancjised every time Alabama votes in a presidential election. If we really want to directly elect our leaders, we need to abolish the archaic Electoral College entirely and allow for the direct election of our President based on the popular vote.

By: Don

Don — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 15:45:07 +0000

Dependable Del has come up with a new link to information that requires no hoops to jump through in order to read it.

(((((Del)))))

We need an authority on the US Constitution to put their expertise to use here. In the meantime it will take this dummy some time to try to read about, and hopefully understand, what’s going on. At first glance it seems this initiative is justified in that it will, if implemented in California law, bring the state into closer compliance with the “one man, one vote” idea.

What difference does it make which political party is behind the petition if it brings us closer to that goal? If Democrats were pushing it in a state dominated by Republicans the other gored ox would be bellowing, wouldn’t it?

While it may be ideal for all states to change to this method at the same time, from what I’ve seen so far, the US Constitution, as it should (under the long neglected 10th amendment), has left how states apportion their Electoral College votes up to the states. Maine and Nebraska took the lead years ago. If California follows, I applaud the voters on the left coast, and those in all other states that follow.

By: Kathy

Kathy — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 15:33:16 +0000

Naomi and Del, thanks for those links. I’m quite sure that the first attempt at a change in California was pushed by out-of-state Giuliani backers, and I doubt the new move is much different. I’ll check out the Google once I’m back in high-speed land. Isn’t it interesting how the (regular, not mega-rich) people who know Giuliani best like him least? I wish some of that skepticism would rub off on the rest of the country.

By: Del

Del — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 14:50:46 +0000

Here’s a similar, if not the same, article in the San Diego paper. Or y’all google California electoral college in the “google news” search and you will see lots.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/state/20071119-9999-1n19elect.html

The main argument against it seems to be what we’ve already gone over here: if they’re really high-minded and seeking reform, why not push for this in all 50 states? Starting with Texas.