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		<title>By: Bottom Line</title>
		<link>http://www.queervoice.net/kmcmullen/2007/02/05/moore-back-in-the-saddle/comment-page-1/#comment-83767</link>
		<dc:creator>Bottom Line</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 19:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anker-
    I am definitely on the conservative side of the house, but here are a couple of points.  The whole ban Muslim from service to the country doesn&#039;t fly.  Not because of your arguments but because this is a free country with the right to dissent.  Just because a &quot;good muslim&quot; may not be an ideal American, I would argue that does not mean he can be an American at all.  Your points about why a good muslim can&#039;t be a good American could also apply to why a stupid lazy American can&#039;t be a good American.  

Theologically - no. Lazy and stupid people place their allegiance to excessive amounts of mindless inactivity and over eating.  They also like to ride those scooters at Walmart even though they aren&#039;t handicapped.  

Religiously - I actually didn&#039;t see your point on this one and how it was tied to being a bad American so I won&#039;t attempt to debate it.

Sculpturally - So.  Are we talking about the Statue of David here or did you mean scripturally?  

Geographically - no. Lazy people have allegiances to their sofa and TV.

Socially - no. Lazy and Stupid people usually hang together and don&#039;t want to hang with others and vice versa.

Politically - no. Lazy people don&#039;t care and don&#039;t vote.

Domestically - no. Lazy people usually don&#039;t make good parents and therefore further the lazy race and leach off of the rest of society.

Intellectually - no. Lazy and stupid people are lazy.

Philosophically - no. Lazyness and Stupidity cannot co-exist with work and intelligence.

Heck you can even be a communist and live in America.  Although I don&#039;t agree with their views or the view of Islamic extremist they can still be if they do it legally (that&#039;s a whole different issue).  If you truly believe in your ideas let them stand in the debate arena and let the opposing side stand as well.  The Constitution protects the rights of lazy and stupid Americans just as it does different political or religious groups.  Seeing that is one of the things you can do as a &quot;Good American&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anker-<br />
    I am definitely on the conservative side of the house, but here are a couple of points.  The whole ban Muslim from service to the country doesn&#8217;t fly.  Not because of your arguments but because this is a free country with the right to dissent.  Just because a &#8220;good muslim&#8221; may not be an ideal American, I would argue that does not mean he can be an American at all.  Your points about why a good muslim can&#8217;t be a good American could also apply to why a stupid lazy American can&#8217;t be a good American.  </p>
<p>Theologically &#8211; no. Lazy and stupid people place their allegiance to excessive amounts of mindless inactivity and over eating.  They also like to ride those scooters at Walmart even though they aren&#8217;t handicapped.  </p>
<p>Religiously &#8211; I actually didn&#8217;t see your point on this one and how it was tied to being a bad American so I won&#8217;t attempt to debate it.</p>
<p>Sculpturally &#8211; So.  Are we talking about the Statue of David here or did you mean scripturally?  </p>
<p>Geographically &#8211; no. Lazy people have allegiances to their sofa and TV.</p>
<p>Socially &#8211; no. Lazy and Stupid people usually hang together and don&#8217;t want to hang with others and vice versa.</p>
<p>Politically &#8211; no. Lazy people don&#8217;t care and don&#8217;t vote.</p>
<p>Domestically &#8211; no. Lazy people usually don&#8217;t make good parents and therefore further the lazy race and leach off of the rest of society.</p>
<p>Intellectually &#8211; no. Lazy and stupid people are lazy.</p>
<p>Philosophically &#8211; no. Lazyness and Stupidity cannot co-exist with work and intelligence.</p>
<p>Heck you can even be a communist and live in America.  Although I don&#8217;t agree with their views or the view of Islamic extremist they can still be if they do it legally (that&#8217;s a whole different issue).  If you truly believe in your ideas let them stand in the debate arena and let the opposing side stand as well.  The Constitution protects the rights of lazy and stupid Americans just as it does different political or religious groups.  Seeing that is one of the things you can do as a &#8220;Good American&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Anker</title>
		<link>http://www.queervoice.net/kmcmullen/2007/02/05/moore-back-in-the-saddle/comment-page-1/#comment-83742</link>
		<dc:creator>Anker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 16:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK - it looks like my &quot;judgment&quot; by &quot;the moderator&quot; has been not to muzzle my future scribbling on this blog - should there be a future at all.  I suppose I should be grateful.  However, the reality is that for at least a short time “the moderator” was in charge of whatever I wrote.  I suspect that I will now just be ignored in hopes of making my McArthur type exit a reality as well.  That’s OK – I know when I’m not welcome.  

However, one last comment from one of our “godless” founders, “A learned blockhead is a greater blockhead than an ignorant one.”

And to provide a little levity, as he always did SO well, Benjamin Franklin also said, “Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK &#8211; it looks like my &#8220;judgment&#8221; by &#8220;the moderator&#8221; has been not to muzzle my future scribbling on this blog &#8211; should there be a future at all.  I suppose I should be grateful.  However, the reality is that for at least a short time “the moderator” was in charge of whatever I wrote.  I suspect that I will now just be ignored in hopes of making my McArthur type exit a reality as well.  That’s OK – I know when I’m not welcome.  </p>
<p>However, one last comment from one of our “godless” founders, “A learned blockhead is a greater blockhead than an ignorant one.”</p>
<p>And to provide a little levity, as he always did SO well, Benjamin Franklin also said, “Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.”</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 15:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Anker&quot;, you are not being censored.  You are free to pay for your own bandwidth and express your opinion all day long.  As I mentioned in the Full Disclosure post above, paid (or recently paid) political operatives who want to shill for their bosses can do it own their own dime.

Congratulations -- you have managed to worsen my already poor opinion of Roy Moore.  The fact that he would pay a bigot like you to speak for him makes his claims of some superior &quot;morality&quot; even more suspect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Anker&#8221;, you are not being censored.  You are free to pay for your own bandwidth and express your opinion all day long.  As I mentioned in the Full Disclosure post above, paid (or recently paid) political operatives who want to shill for their bosses can do it own their own dime.</p>
<p>Congratulations &#8212; you have managed to worsen my already poor opinion of Roy Moore.  The fact that he would pay a bigot like you to speak for him makes his claims of some superior &#8220;morality&#8221; even more suspect.</p>
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		<title>By: Anker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 15:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK - now my comments must await &quot;moderation&quot; - I KNEW it!  Even though it was my intent to, like McArthur said, “I take my leave of you now and just fade away” however, Mr. or Ms. Moderator, Jennifer&#039;s comment was just too tempting and deserved a snide, parting shot remark because it was snide itself.  Jennifer did not attempt to address one single factual point.  Just discredit the messenger - a typical reaction to those, especially on the left, who either fear the truth, don&#039;t want to hear the truth or already know the truth and wants it covered up or ignored. 

This will be interesting.  

BTW - I challenge &quot;the moderator&quot; to prove that ANY of the facts which I have simply pointed out about Islam or the &quot;war on terror&quot; is not correct.  After spending a lot of time composing those posts &quot;the moderator&quot; should responsibly reply personally to kick me off of this blog...IF they can disprove any of the information posted.  Or IF &quot;the moderator&quot; simply wants to be like our &quot;political leadership&quot; and exercise their &quot;right&quot; to censor my future writings in the best tradition of famous leftist, socialists, tyrants, communists, Leninists, Marxist, Imperialists, Nazis, and many others that throughout all history have so prominently done and still do so even to this very day.

I eagerly await your “judgment!”  

(Boy, I must have really hit a nerve!  Good!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK &#8211; now my comments must await &#8220;moderation&#8221; &#8211; I KNEW it!  Even though it was my intent to, like McArthur said, “I take my leave of you now and just fade away” however, Mr. or Ms. Moderator, Jennifer&#8217;s comment was just too tempting and deserved a snide, parting shot remark because it was snide itself.  Jennifer did not attempt to address one single factual point.  Just discredit the messenger &#8211; a typical reaction to those, especially on the left, who either fear the truth, don&#8217;t want to hear the truth or already know the truth and wants it covered up or ignored. </p>
<p>This will be interesting.  </p>
<p>BTW &#8211; I challenge &#8220;the moderator&#8221; to prove that ANY of the facts which I have simply pointed out about Islam or the &#8220;war on terror&#8221; is not correct.  After spending a lot of time composing those posts &#8220;the moderator&#8221; should responsibly reply personally to kick me off of this blog&#8230;IF they can disprove any of the information posted.  Or IF &#8220;the moderator&#8221; simply wants to be like our &#8220;political leadership&#8221; and exercise their &#8220;right&#8221; to censor my future writings in the best tradition of famous leftist, socialists, tyrants, communists, Leninists, Marxist, Imperialists, Nazis, and many others that throughout all history have so prominently done and still do so even to this very day.</p>
<p>I eagerly await your “judgment!”  </p>
<p>(Boy, I must have really hit a nerve!  Good!)</p>
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		<title>By: Bottom Line</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bottom Line</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 15:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anna-  You are still my favorite semi-liberal, Kathy is my favorite liberal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anna-  You are still my favorite semi-liberal, Kathy is my favorite liberal.</p>
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		<title>By: Anker</title>
		<link>http://www.queervoice.net/kmcmullen/2007/02/05/moore-back-in-the-saddle/comment-page-1/#comment-83719</link>
		<dc:creator>Anker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 14:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, Jennifer, should you move to Canada, would that indicate socialism for a socialist?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, Jennifer, should you move to Canada, would that indicate socialism for a socialist?</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 13:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow Anker.  Your vision of America makes me want to move to Canada.  And hey, they have socialized medicine!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Anker.  Your vision of America makes me want to move to Canada.  And hey, they have socialized medicine!</p>
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		<title>By: Anker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 18:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Bottom Line, however the conspiracy buffs find the &quot;c&quot; word in everything.  Example: FDR knew about Pearl Harbor well before the attack.  Teddy Roosevelt knew about the U.S.S. Maine before it blew up in Cuba.  Huge radio companies, Cox, Clear Channel, Citadel, Cumulus, Crawford, etc. all beginning with &quot;c&quot; just like the word conspiracy.  I could go on and on...

Most of all - thank you Kathy for the opportunity to write a counter opinion on your blog.  Many bloggers go into orbit when such raw truth is exposed on their blog and then its &quot;gone in 60 seconds!&quot; 

While we may always disagree on the 1st Amendment, the &quot;libel&quot; list as you called it is all completely factual.  Yet, we abhor “racial profiling” and stop little old ladies and old congressmen in our nations airports!  Ridiculous!  I do not know of another SELF PROCLAIMED ENEMY OF OUR COUNTRY and the rest of the free world that has so directly and openly taken so many innocent, non-combative lives!  Shall I post the link to the video beheading of Daniel Pearl in the name of Allah?  It&#039;s extremely graphic, but what hurts me the most is Pearl&#039;s last pleadings and then the actual sounds of the Muslim terrorist&#039;s knife going through his throat.  I MADE myself watch it.  It made me very sick and extremely angry all at once.  Even so, I would recommend it to anyone especially if you intend to travel to a Muslim country.  I think it needs to be seen and heard.  Just like I think, like the country song says, the fall of the twin towers should be shown everyday.  It is called know your enemy - and we, at least in this country, not only do not know them, in our arrogance we have blissfully forgotten our enemy!

I pray no other American or citizen of the world who loves freedom and RESPECTS THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS has to die like Daniel Pearl did or the other beheaded hostages and let&#039;s not forget the nearly 3000 who died on 9/11...and you know all the rest of the attacks on innocents and combatants alike that I mentioned before.  

In WW2 we fire bombed Dresden, Germany and HUNDREDS of other NON-MILITARY targets, er uh, TOWNS in Germany and Japan.  We ended up having to use nukes on Japan.  WHY?  To break the will of THE ENEMY to fight.  Sherman did the same thing to Georgia and wanted to make &quot;South Carolina howl&quot; but the march through Georgia proved decisive!  Do you know why, Kathy?  You should read about it one day.  There is a good chance that the carnage, death and mayhem HEAPED upon small southern towns by 120,000 AMERICAN troops had a direct affect on some of your family members – if you care to go back.  After all, it was Sherman who most correctly proclaimed that, &quot;War is hell!&quot; 

It is sad to say, but in both examples the ends justified the means.  We have either forgotten how to win wars or our leadership is a bunch of pussys!  I personally believe it is the latter.  Yet we develop marvelous weapons for the war fighter without any intent to use them and we go on to squander the lives of those most dear to us - our sons and daughters.  It makes no sense.  However, our enemy knows, just like in Vietnam, that we will turn yellow and, in the name of &quot;peace&quot; we will turn tail and RUN sooner or later.  They are merely waiting us out.  It is already happening in Afghanistan.  The Taliban, who forces women to wear berkas and executes them in front of huge crowds at SOCCER GAMES (for God&#039;s sake) for the slightest breech of &quot;Muslim law&quot; are regaining their influence!  

Good thing you don&#039;t wear a burka, Kathy!

I&#039;ll leave all of you alone now.

Take care and God (not Allah) bless you all - each and every one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Bottom Line, however the conspiracy buffs find the &#8220;c&#8221; word in everything.  Example: FDR knew about Pearl Harbor well before the attack.  Teddy Roosevelt knew about the U.S.S. Maine before it blew up in Cuba.  Huge radio companies, Cox, Clear Channel, Citadel, Cumulus, Crawford, etc. all beginning with &#8220;c&#8221; just like the word conspiracy.  I could go on and on&#8230;</p>
<p>Most of all &#8211; thank you Kathy for the opportunity to write a counter opinion on your blog.  Many bloggers go into orbit when such raw truth is exposed on their blog and then its &#8220;gone in 60 seconds!&#8221; </p>
<p>While we may always disagree on the 1st Amendment, the &#8220;libel&#8221; list as you called it is all completely factual.  Yet, we abhor “racial profiling” and stop little old ladies and old congressmen in our nations airports!  Ridiculous!  I do not know of another SELF PROCLAIMED ENEMY OF OUR COUNTRY and the rest of the free world that has so directly and openly taken so many innocent, non-combative lives!  Shall I post the link to the video beheading of Daniel Pearl in the name of Allah?  It&#8217;s extremely graphic, but what hurts me the most is Pearl&#8217;s last pleadings and then the actual sounds of the Muslim terrorist&#8217;s knife going through his throat.  I MADE myself watch it.  It made me very sick and extremely angry all at once.  Even so, I would recommend it to anyone especially if you intend to travel to a Muslim country.  I think it needs to be seen and heard.  Just like I think, like the country song says, the fall of the twin towers should be shown everyday.  It is called know your enemy &#8211; and we, at least in this country, not only do not know them, in our arrogance we have blissfully forgotten our enemy!</p>
<p>I pray no other American or citizen of the world who loves freedom and RESPECTS THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS has to die like Daniel Pearl did or the other beheaded hostages and let&#8217;s not forget the nearly 3000 who died on 9/11&#8230;and you know all the rest of the attacks on innocents and combatants alike that I mentioned before.  </p>
<p>In WW2 we fire bombed Dresden, Germany and HUNDREDS of other NON-MILITARY targets, er uh, TOWNS in Germany and Japan.  We ended up having to use nukes on Japan.  WHY?  To break the will of THE ENEMY to fight.  Sherman did the same thing to Georgia and wanted to make &#8220;South Carolina howl&#8221; but the march through Georgia proved decisive!  Do you know why, Kathy?  You should read about it one day.  There is a good chance that the carnage, death and mayhem HEAPED upon small southern towns by 120,000 AMERICAN troops had a direct affect on some of your family members – if you care to go back.  After all, it was Sherman who most correctly proclaimed that, &#8220;War is hell!&#8221; </p>
<p>It is sad to say, but in both examples the ends justified the means.  We have either forgotten how to win wars or our leadership is a bunch of pussys!  I personally believe it is the latter.  Yet we develop marvelous weapons for the war fighter without any intent to use them and we go on to squander the lives of those most dear to us &#8211; our sons and daughters.  It makes no sense.  However, our enemy knows, just like in Vietnam, that we will turn yellow and, in the name of &#8220;peace&#8221; we will turn tail and RUN sooner or later.  They are merely waiting us out.  It is already happening in Afghanistan.  The Taliban, who forces women to wear berkas and executes them in front of huge crowds at SOCCER GAMES (for God&#8217;s sake) for the slightest breech of &#8220;Muslim law&#8221; are regaining their influence!  </p>
<p>Good thing you don&#8217;t wear a burka, Kathy!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll leave all of you alone now.</p>
<p>Take care and God (not Allah) bless you all &#8211; each and every one!</p>
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		<title>By: Bottom Line</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bottom Line</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 18:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anna-
    Your powers of insight continue to astound me. Except you forgot the Roy Moore discussion also talked about whether or not he would run for president and how his far right wackoness and how it would might impact an election.  Last time I checked Hillary was running for president.  Since you didn&#039;t get the connection I am sorry, I will try to draw it out in crayon next time!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anna-<br />
    Your powers of insight continue to astound me. Except you forgot the Roy Moore discussion also talked about whether or not he would run for president and how his far right wackoness and how it would might impact an election.  Last time I checked Hillary was running for president.  Since you didn&#8217;t get the connection I am sorry, I will try to draw it out in crayon next time!</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anker,

The Constitution also says that the Government cannot compel us to believe in one religion, or any religion for that matter.  Where to draw the line between my freedom to pray and someone else&#039;s not to, is, of course, the subject of the entire debate.  But, here is something else to ponder.  The more closely you entertwine government and religion the more you weaken religion.  Look at the European countries that have state religions (e.g. France and Britain).  When individuals distrust the state they will also distrust the church because they are one and the same.  At the opposite end of the spectrum are the islamic states that use the power of the state to force submission to religious doctrine.  That force becomes less about religion and more about power and also weakens religion because it is nothing more than a coercive tool of the state.

As for Article 6 of the US Constitution, I wonder why you have omitted all the crimes and atrocities committed by members of other religions, including Christians, from your list.  Surely you understand that Christians, throughout history, have been as prone to human sin as much as Muslims.  When you condemn all Muslims simply for being Muslims you are engaging in exactly the same behavior as Muslims who condemn Christians and Jews for their religion.  Bitter pill, isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anker,</p>
<p>The Constitution also says that the Government cannot compel us to believe in one religion, or any religion for that matter.  Where to draw the line between my freedom to pray and someone else&#8217;s not to, is, of course, the subject of the entire debate.  But, here is something else to ponder.  The more closely you entertwine government and religion the more you weaken religion.  Look at the European countries that have state religions (e.g. France and Britain).  When individuals distrust the state they will also distrust the church because they are one and the same.  At the opposite end of the spectrum are the islamic states that use the power of the state to force submission to religious doctrine.  That force becomes less about religion and more about power and also weakens religion because it is nothing more than a coercive tool of the state.</p>
<p>As for Article 6 of the US Constitution, I wonder why you have omitted all the crimes and atrocities committed by members of other religions, including Christians, from your list.  Surely you understand that Christians, throughout history, have been as prone to human sin as much as Muslims.  When you condemn all Muslims simply for being Muslims you are engaging in exactly the same behavior as Muslims who condemn Christians and Jews for their religion.  Bitter pill, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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